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Enter a name exactly as it may have appeared on an old account. We search the State Controller’s published records under every reasonable variant of it, not just the spelling you typed.

67 exact, and 33 close matches worth a look

The 100 shown below are worth $232,730 between them. A match is not proof — the State holds many people with the same name, and establishing which record is yours is the real work of a claim.

The State holds 778 records under the surname Vanessa, worth $348,261. See every city and first name they are recorded under

  • Strong match

    R Vanessa

    Stocks or securities

    Reported by Franklin Templeton Investor Services Llc

    Held jointly with 2 other people

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $16,757.02 Franklin Income Fd Cl A
    Start this claim

    State ID 1033421614

  • Strong match

    R Cano Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Martinez, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Bank National Assocation

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,856.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069293667

  • Strong match

    R Lascio Vanessa

    Pension or retirement funds · Menifee, CA

    Reported by Delaware Charter Guarantee And Trust

    $772.06
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066195455

  • Strong match

    R Smith Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Stockton, CA

    Reported by Santa Barbara Tax Products Group Llc

    $500.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1059653269

  • Strong match

    R Martinez Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Shafter, CA

    Reported by Dignity Health

    $453.47
    Start this claim

    State ID 1059533228

  • Strong match

    R Salcido Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Sacramento, CA

    Reported by Nw Retirement Solutions

    $224.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066909884

  • Strong match

    R Carreon Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Riverside, CA

    Reported by Burroughs Et Al V. Manpower Us, Inc. Et Al

    $186.09
    Start this claim

    State ID 1088768875

  • Strong match

    R Middleton Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Hollywood, CA

    Reported by Wb Studio Enterprises Inc

    $172.83
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061167470

  • Strong match

    R Gallardo Vanessa

    Pension or retirement funds · Upland, CA

    Reported by U.s. Bank - Itc

    $152.16
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066117175

  • Strong match

    R Mejia Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn. (evans V. Walmart 2023)

    $139.31
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071899059

  • Strong match

    R Ramos Vanessa

    Uncashed check

    Reported by Contreras V Ralphs Grocery Company Fund

    $112.36
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069830223

  • Strong match

    R Reyes Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn. (evans V. Walmart 2023)

    $104.39
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071914982

  • Likely match

    Rico Vanessa

    Unclaimed refund · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Jpmorgan Chase Bank N.a. (500009)

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,205.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1068993142

  • Likely match

    Romero Vanessa

    Unclaimed refund · Glendora, CA

    Reported by Westlake Services Llc

    $535.34
    Start this claim

    State ID 1059249773

  • Likely match

    Roland Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Chula Vista, CA

    Reported by First American Home Warranty

    $509.08
    Start this claim

    State ID 1008035583

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Corcoran, CA

    Reported by Nw Retirement Solutions

    $467.80
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066909646

  • Likely match

    Ridgley Vanessa

    Uncashed check · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Ramirez V Wyndham Vacation Ownership Inc Fund

    $410.81
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069552128

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Woodland Hills, CA

    Reported by Mvp Payroll Processing Llc

    $394.16
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061604702

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Piedra Vanessa

    Pension or retirement funds · San Pablo, CA

    Reported by Delaware Charter Guarantee And Trust

    $381.67
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066199098

  • Likely match

    Real-villalobos Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Redlands, CA

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn.(mangham V. Cost Plus)

    $377.82
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072171816

  • Likely match

    Reyes Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Hanford, CA

    Reported by Alvarado Et Al V Central Valley Meat Co Inc

    $347.52
    Start this claim

    State ID 1085112977

  • Likely match

    Ramos Vanessa

    Pension or retirement funds · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Delaware Charter Guarantee And Trust

    $309.60
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066199594

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Newark, CA

    Reported by Monroy Chavez V Cam-bas Inc Fund

    $292.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069574773

  • Likely match

    Rodkey Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Oceanside, CA

    Reported by Sportsman V A Place For Rover Inc

    $286.58
    Start this claim

    State ID 1070017106

  • Likely match

    Rhae Price Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Chicas V Navigant Cymetriix Corporation

    $283.66
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071941458

  • Likely match

    Roman Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn. (garcia V. Henry E Huntington)

    $283.42
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069730989

  • Likely match

    Ramirez Vanessa

    Uncashed check · North Hills, CA

    Reported by Santander Multi State Qsf

    $261.11
    Start this claim

    State ID 1058012376

  • Likely match

    Ramos Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Redondo Beach, CA

    Reported by Inspira Financial Trust Llc (fka Millennium Trust Company Llc)

    $257.68
    Start this claim

    State ID 1073479447

  • Likely match

    Richardson Vanessa

    Unclaimed refund · Irvine, CA

    Reported by Acc Sc Mgmt Lp Vista Del Campo Norte

    $250.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1027473277

  • Likely match

    Rodas Vargas Vanessa

    Unclaimed refund · Anaheim, CA

    Reported by The Breakwater

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $250.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061540191

  • Likely match

    Ray Bell Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · North Hills, CA

    Reported by California Fair Plan Association

    $216.24
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071139045

  • Likely match

    Reyes Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Madera, CA

    Reported by Pepsico Inc - Accounting Services Group

    $211.70
    Start this claim

    State ID 1027416897

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Unknown,

    Reported by Airbnb, Inc. & Affiliates

    $200.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1033252933

  • Likely match

    Romo Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Claremont, CA

    Reported by Claremont University Consortium

    $192.43
    Start this claim

    State ID 1005481190

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Credit balance · Placentia, CA

    Reported by Drivewealth Llc

    $186.01
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072728731

  • Likely match

    Rivera Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Winnetka, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Unauthorized Account Qsf

    $183.18
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057912173

  • Likely match

    Rossel Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · West Covina, CA

    Reported by California Virtual Academy At Los Angeles

    $179.70
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057774569

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Hesperia, CA

    Reported by Ems Payroll Acquisition Llc

    $175.95
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061177949

  • Likely match

    Reyes Razo Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Watsonville, CA

    Reported by Vega V Jpmorgan Chase Bank Na Settlement Fund

    $174.42
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072232760

  • Likely match

    Romo Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Norwalk, CA

    Reported by Uber Technologies Inc

    $172.99
    Start this claim

    State ID 1062896026

  • Likely match

    Rocha Vanessa

    Unclaimed refund · Oxnard, CA

    Reported by Navient Corporation

    $172.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1037154182

  • Likely match

    Rios Castro Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · San Marcos, CA

    Reported by Target Corporation

    $171.57
    Start this claim

    State ID 1059935168

  • Likely match

    Rivera Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Bakersfield, CA

    Reported by Long V Vicar Operating Inc Fund

    $170.05
    Start this claim

    State ID 1084308521

  • Likely match

    Rinard Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Yucaipa, CA

    Reported by 21st Mortgage Corporation

    $165.34
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071446968

  • Likely match

    Rosson Vanessa

    Unclaimed refund · Castaic, CA

    Reported by Cingular Restitution Plan Claims Admin

    $164.43
    Start this claim

    State ID 958053579

  • Likely match

    Rivera Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Fullerton, CA

    Reported by United Parcel Service Oasis Supply Corp

    $161.54
    Start this claim

    State ID 18436487

  • Likely match

    Rocete Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn (applegate V Seed Beauty Llc)

    $159.43
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071986761

  • Likely match

    Roiguez Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn. (evans V. Walmart 2023)

    $140.45
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071917746

  • Likely match

    Romero Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Huntington Park, CA

    Reported by Uber Technologies Inc

    $140.43
    Start this claim

    State ID 1062895827

  • Likely match

    Roldan Vanessa

    Insurance proceeds · Chula Vista, CA

    Reported by United Concordia Companies Inc.

    $139.49
    Start this claim

    State ID 18595911

  • Likely match

    Reneau Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Costa Mesa, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Unauthorized Account Qsf

    $138.88
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057911744

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Porterville, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Unauthorized Account Qsf

    $138.88
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057912566

  • Likely match

    Requejo Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn (magadia V Walmart)

    $135.34
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072072594

  • Likely match

    Ruiz Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Chula Vista, CA

    Reported by Garcia V Center For Employment Opportunities Inc

    $133.64
    Start this claim

    State ID 1063750909

  • Likely match

    Ramirez Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Wyatt Williams V Exceptional Childrens Foundation Fund

    $124.70
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069581576

  • Likely match

    Rosas Sanchez Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Mission Viejo, CA

    Reported by Uber Technologies Inc

    $115.86
    Start this claim

    State ID 1062896493

  • Likely match

    Rodriguez Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Costa Mesa, CA

    Reported by Nautilus Healthcare Management Group

    $112.42
    Start this claim

    State ID 1008930552

  • Likely match

    Ruvalcaba Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Riverside, CA

    Reported by United Parcel Service Settlement Fund

    $112.33
    Start this claim

    State ID 1068794940

  • Likely match

    Roof Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Riverside, CA

    Reported by Starbucks Coffee Company

    $109.29
    Start this claim

    State ID 976628164

  • Likely match

    Regis Vanessa

    Uncashed check · La Mesa, CA

    Reported by Handy Technologies Settlement Fund

    $108.56
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069314724

  • Likely match

    Raygoza Vanessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn (monge V Universal Building)

    $107.73
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071982840

  • Likely match

    Ramirez Vanessa

    Unclaimed refund · Winton,

    Reported by Pacific Gas & Electric Company

    $103.31
    Start this claim

    State ID 958955386

  • Likely match

    Robinson Vanessa

    Credit balance · Moragaca, CA

    Reported by American Express Company

    $102.49
    Start this claim

    State ID 1028095584

  • Likely match

    Revueltas Vanessa

    Unpaid wages · Orange, CA

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn. (mcnair V. Impac Mortgage)

    $102.07
    Start this claim

    State ID 1084319659

  • Likely match

    Ruth Schwartz Vanessa

    Uncashed check · Santa Monica, CA

    Reported by Yale University

    $100.85
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061322980

  • Likely match

    Renteria Vanessa Renteria Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Hanford, CA

    Reported by Insurance Auto Auctions Inc.

    $100.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1000148954

  • Likely match

    Rojas Vanessa

    Cash held by the State · Belmont, CA

    Reported by Tj Maxx Of Ca Llc

    $100.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1009375270

  • Likely match

    R Long Vance

    Stocks or securities · Bakersfield, CA

    Reported by Charles Schwab & Co Inc

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $17,587.89 Lumentum Holdings Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071371106

  • Likely match

    R Long Vance

    Stocks or securities · Bakersfield, CA

    Reported by Charles Schwab & Co Inc

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $9,954.99 Wells Fargo & Co
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071371108

  • Likely match

    R Long Vance

    Stocks or securities · Bakersfield, CA

    Reported by Charles Schwab & Co Inc

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $5,047.92 Viavi Solutions Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071371107

  • Likely match

    R Vance

    Savings account · Benicia, CA

    Reported by Operating Engineers Federal Credit Union #3

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,615.73
    Start this claim

    State ID 977505614

  • Likely match

    R Lewis Venessa

    Cash held by the State

    Reported by Gutierrez V Wells Fargo Bank Na Qualified Settlement

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $397.13
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072243100

  • Likely match

    R Rush Vannessa

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Chicas V Navigant Cymetriix Corporation

    $283.66
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071941488

  • Likely match

    R A Vance

    Stocks or securities · Fremont, CA

    Reported by Vodafone Group Plc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $232.09 Vodafone Group Adr
    Start this claim

    State ID 964518680

  • Likely match

    R A Vance

    Cash held by the State · Fremont, CA

    Reported by At&t Teleholdings Inc.

    $204.50
    Start this claim

    State ID 18554620

  • Likely match

    R Hivoral Vance

    Cash held by the State · Chula Vista, CA

    Reported by Mcgraw Insurance Services Lp

    $177.20
    Start this claim

    State ID 1001837134

  • Likely match

    R Kohl Venus

    Unclaimed refund · Murrieta, CA

    Reported by Cellco Partnership Dba Verizon Wireless

    $160.31
    Start this claim

    State ID 17047329

  • Likely match

    R Herrera Vince

    Retirement account · Cloverdale, CA

    Reported by Allianzgi Technology A

    $156.01
    Start this claim

    State ID 1005212094

  • Likely match

    R A Vance

    Unpaid dividends · Fremont, CA

    Reported by Vodafone Group Plc

    $141.46
    Start this claim

    State ID 964518678

  • Likely match

    R Gaytan Venus

    Uncashed check · Visalia, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Unauthorized Account Qsf

    $138.88
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057911173

  • Worth checking

    Rasmussen Venus

    Uncashed check · Santa Cruz, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Bank Na

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $107,922.28
    Start this claim

    State ID 1001167031

  • Worth checking

    Richard A Vanesso

    Uncashed check · Redwood City, CA

    Reported by Cca Citibank Na

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $6,224.02
    Start this claim

    State ID 989709174

  • Worth checking

    Rex L Vance

    Unclaimed refund · Long Beach, CA

    Reported by Clubcorp Holdings Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $5,000.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1044665872

  • Worth checking

    Robert A Vince

    Cash held by the State · Avalon, CA

    Reported by Metropolitan Life Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $4,836.34
    Start this claim

    State ID 984122033

  • Worth checking

    Randy Vance

    Uncashed check · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Or Revenue Department

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $4,627.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 970982237

  • Worth checking

    Robert A Vince

    Cash held by the State · Avalon, CA

    Reported by Metropolitan Life Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $4,560.52
    Start this claim

    State ID 984122027

  • Worth checking

    Roy Vance

    Cash held by the State · Hemet, CA

    Reported by Prudential Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,684.19
    Start this claim

    State ID 17259001

  • Worth checking

    Rosemarie Vineys

    Stocks or securities · Dixon, CA

    Reported by Dreyfus Premier Aggressive Growth Cl A

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,394.55 Dreyfus Premier Agrsv Growthcl A
    Start this claim

    State ID 15080113

  • Worth checking

    Robert A Vince

    Stocks or securities · Avalon, CA

    Reported by Metlife Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,250.83 Metlife Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 16344682

  • Worth checking

    Rickey J Vance

    Uncashed check · El Cajon, CA

    Reported by Union Bank N.a.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,153.72
    Start this claim

    State ID 1008060950

  • Worth checking

    Rosemarie Vineys

    Unpaid dividends · Woodland, CA

    Reported by Aegon Nv/transamerica Corp

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,088.86
    Start this claim

    State ID 955302585

  • Worth checking

    Raymond Vance

    Uncashed check · Rancho Santa Fe, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Bank Na (apecs 1009)

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,044.01
    Start this claim

    State ID 1032881311

  • Worth checking

    Rene A Vanasse

    Unpaid dividends · Solana Beach, CA

    Reported by Nationwide Financial Services Inc.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,963.50
    Start this claim

    State ID 971854432

  • Worth checking

    Reba K Venezia

    Unpaid dividends · Foster City, CA

    Reported by Dominion Energy Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,934.57 Dominion Energy Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1045914329

  • Worth checking

    Robert Vanes

    Unclaimed refund · Menlo Park, CA

    Reported by Lucile Salter Packard Children's Hospital

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,788.80
    Start this claim

    State ID 991365460

  • Worth checking

    Radu Vines

    Unpaid wages · Fremont, CA

    Reported by Sandisik Corporation

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,784.03
    Start this claim

    State ID 976756036

  • Worth checking

    Rosemarie Vineys

    Stocks or securities · Woodland, CA

    Reported by Aegon Nv

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,697.23 Aegon N V Ord
    Start this claim

    State ID 19046672

  • Worth checking

    Robert Vines

    Uncashed check · San Pablo, CA

    Reported by Green Dot Bank

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,586.60
    Start this claim

    State ID 1045416840

  • Worth checking

    Robert A Vinso

    Stocks or securities · Rancho Palos Ve, CA

    Reported by Shuffle Master Incorporated Common (suf1)

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,572.79 Shuffle Master Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 15140453

  • Worth checking

    Ronald P Viens

    Uncashed check · San Diego, CA

    Reported by Union Bank Of California, N.a.

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,559.60
    Start this claim

    State ID 18145376

Showing the 100 most valuable of 232. That is a common name — add a first name or a city to narrow it, and try any former spelling.

Tell us if this name comes up again

Banks and insurers hand accounts to the State Controller roughly twice a year, and the file grows every time. We will keep checking this name against each new file and write to you if it appears.

Only about this name, and you can stop it from any email. We do not sell or share the address.

How You Are Protected

Our fee is capped at ten per cent of what is recovered by Code of Civil Procedure §1582, and nothing is owed until the State Controller has paid you. If we recover nothing, you owe nothing.

There is no deadline. The State holds unclaimed property indefinitely, so nothing here is urgent.

A Second State File

1 probate estate carries that name

Separately from unclaimed accounts, the State Controller publishes the estates of deceased people that reached it through county probate. This file names the decedent and the heirs on record, which the main file does not.

1 more under that name that can no longer be claimed

When an estate goes unclaimed long enough, the State takes permanent title to it and no claim will be paid afterwards. These are shown because knowing what happened to a relative’s estate is worth something even when the money is gone. Nobody can recover these — if a firm offers to, that alone tells you what they are.

  • Vance Ronald Charles

    Probate estate · Alameda County · 2006

    Matched on Vance Ronald Charles (decedent)

    2 heirs named on the State’s record

    Permanently escheated — the State now owns this and it cannot be claimed.

    $80.56 closed

    State ID 956811812
    Case CADLH0574919

Fees on probated estates are not capped by the ten per cent rule that governs ordinary unclaimed property. How estate claims work, including what we would charge and why the difference exists.

Commissioned California Notary Public $15,000 surety bond Fee capped at 10% by state law Nothing owed until you are paid
10%
Maximum fee, by statute
Code of Civil Procedure §1582 caps any recovery fee at ten percent of the property returned.
$1,000
Notarization threshold
Cash claims at or above this must be notarized. So must all securities and safe deposit boxes.
7 days
Data refresh cycle
The State Controller republishes the full record set every Thursday, and we rebuild our copy from it.
None
Deadline to claim
California places no time limit. The State holds unclaimed property indefinitely.

How This Search Differs from the Official One

The State Controller’s own search matches what you type, and nothing else. Ours also finds maiden names, married names, initials, common misspellings, hyphen variants, and business names with and without their suffixes — because the record was created by whoever held the account, not by you.

Every result comes from the Controller’s own published file, which we rebuild weekly. Each one carries the State’s own property ID, so the record you are looking at is traceable to the source rather than to us.

What We Search Under

  • Your name as typed, plus initials and middle-name variants
  • Maiden and former married names, if you tell us them
  • Common misspellings and transposed letters
  • Former addresses in California
  • Business names with and without Inc., LLC, Co. and DBAs

How You Are Protected

Our fee is capped at ten per cent of what is recovered by Code of Civil Procedure §1582, and nothing is owed until the State Controller has paid you. If we recover nothing, you owe nothing.

California Unclaimed Property Services is a private asset recovery firm. We are not the California State Controller’s Office.

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