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Enter a name exactly as it may have appeared on an old account. We search the State Controller’s published records under every reasonable variant of it, not just the spelling you typed.

64 exact, and 36 close matches worth a look

The 100 shown below are worth $542,398 between them. A match is not proof — the State holds many people with the same name, and establishing which record is yours is the real work of a claim.

The State holds 805 records under the surname Donna, worth $848,611. See every city and first name they are recorded under

  • Strong match

    S Csuti Donna

    Cash held by the State · Oakland, CA

    Reported by Nw Retirement Solutions

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,030.66
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066905306

  • Strong match

    S Donna

    Cash held by the State · Gardena, CA

    Reported by First Data Merchant Services

    $500.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 991008209

  • Strong match

    S Crayton Donna

    Cash held by the State · Ramona, CA

    Reported by Elevance Health Inc

    $494.84
    Start this claim

    State ID 1025733513

  • Strong match

    S Lomen Donna

    Cash held by the State · Granite Bay, CA

    Reported by Farmers New World Life

    $484.73
    Start this claim

    State ID 1088040818

  • Strong match

    S Lomen Donna

    Cash held by the State · Granite Bay, CA

    Reported by Farmers New World Life

    $466.21
    Start this claim

    State ID 1088040817

  • Strong match

    S Orrante Donna

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn. (evans V. Walmart 2023)

    $211.37
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071906926

  • Strong match

    S M Donna

    Uncashed check

    Reported by Chicago Title Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $204.50
    Start this claim

    State ID 963586316

  • Strong match

    S Bautista Dds Donna

    Cash held by the State · San Francisco, CA

    Reported by Delta Dental Of Minnesota

    $182.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 954069553

  • Strong match

    S Donna

    Cash held by the State · Alhambra, CA

    Reported by Bank Of America Nt & Sa

    $169.28
    Start this claim

    State ID 5099521

  • Strong match

    S U-bake Pizza Donna

    Credit balance · Oakhurst, CA

    Reported by Worldcom Inc Subsidiaries

    $128.62
    Start this claim

    State ID 13825036

  • Strong match

    S Lindsay For Donna

    Cash held by the State · Wildomar, CA

    Reported by Combined Insurance Co Of America

    $125.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 998799129

  • Strong match

    S H Donna

    Cash held by the State · Fairfax, CA

    Reported by Paul Revere Life & Accident

    $121.80
    Start this claim

    State ID 16398511

  • Strong match

    S H Donna

    Cash held by the State · Fairfax, CA

    Reported by Paul Revere Life & Accident

    $121.80
    Start this claim

    State ID 16398512

  • Strong match

    S Mcfane Donna

    Uncashed check · Nevada City, CA

    Reported by Zotec Partners Llc

    $118.17
    Start this claim

    State ID 1056726563

  • Strong match

    S Desserts Donna

    Cash held by the State · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Paypal Inc

    $104.88
    Start this claim

    State ID 1009110892

  • Strong match

    S Desserts Donna

    Unclaimed refund · Norwalk, CA

    Reported by Yahoo Holdings, Inc

    $100.60
    Start this claim

    State ID 981518311

  • Likely match

    Stewart Donna

    Unclaimed refund · Red Bluff, CA

    Reported by Moneygram Payment Systems Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,000.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061660252

  • Likely match

    Seaborn Donna

    Uncashed check · Ontario, CA

    Reported by Cil&d Llc

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,794.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1069900635

  • Likely match

    Stephen Donna

    Pension or retirement funds · Oceanside, CA

    Reported by Delaware Charter Guarantee And Trust

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,646.13
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066201819

  • Likely match

    Sampson Donna

    Cash held by the State · Belmont, CA

    Reported by Stripe Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,051.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1059007225

  • Likely match

    Sher Donna

    Uncashed check · Rancho Santa Fe, CA

    Reported by Rancho Diegueno Estates

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,000.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1065631765

  • Likely match

    Seniuta Donna

    Cash held by the State · Santa Ana, CA

    Reported by Ukranian National Association Inc

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,000.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1058851116

  • Likely match

    Shonkwiler Donna

    Cash held by the State · Ontario, CA

    Reported by Jefferson Insurance Company

    $808.20
    Start this claim

    State ID 1065543987

  • Likely match

    Schmelzer Donna

    Unpaid wages · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Saint Francis Medical Center

    $628.50
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061824128

  • Likely match

    Show Donna

    Uncashed check · Unknown,

    Reported by Bank Of America - California

    $591.66
    Start this claim

    State ID 970770918

  • Likely match

    Schmidt Donna

    Uncashed check

    Reported by Unify Financial Federal Credit Union

    $500.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1012955849

  • Likely match

    Save Donna

    Cash held by the State · Newark, CA

    Reported by Trinity Universal Insurance Co

    $500.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 974783311

  • Likely match

    Spearman Jackson Donna

    Cash held by the State · Rancho Cucamonga, CA

    Reported by Allstate Northbrook Indemnity Company

    $500.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1026482943

  • Likely match

    Scemons Donna

    Uncashed check · Castaic, CA

    Reported by Wolters Kluwer Health Inc.

    $400.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1010130652

  • Likely match

    Sutton Donna

    Cash held by the State · Santa Ana, CA

    Reported by Allstate Insurance Company

    $367.20
    Start this claim

    State ID 1058901735

  • Likely match

    Stefanick Donna

    Unclaimed refund

    Reported by California Capital Ins Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $305.60
    Start this claim

    State ID 1047628980

  • Likely match

    Speer Donna

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by Phoenix Settlement Admn (magadia V Walmart)

    $271.37
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072083764

  • Likely match

    Shaw Donna

    Unclaimed refund · Galt, CA

    Reported by Pacific Gas & Electric Company

    $265.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057048154

  • Likely match

    Smith Donna

    Cash held by the State · Berkeley,

    Reported by Kaiser Foundation Health Plan

    $252.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 4465078

  • Likely match

    Shoupe Md Donna

    Cash held by the State · Unknown, CA

    Reported by Grey Global Group, Inc.

    $250.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 18477381

  • Likely match

    Suhay Donna

    Unpaid wages · Westchester, CA

    Reported by Directv Llc

    $249.66
    Start this claim

    State ID 1062108670

  • Likely match

    Seymour Donna

    Credit balance · Cathedral City, CA

    Reported by Mhc Operating Limited Partnership

    $225.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057586014

  • Likely match

    Steen Steen D Donna

    Cash held by the State · Riverside, CA

    Reported by Public Storage Inc

    $223.20
    Start this claim

    State ID 999751045

  • Likely match

    Salcedo Donna

    Cash held by the State · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Mercari Inc

    $210.65
    Start this claim

    State ID 1060597799

  • Likely match

    Shaner Donna

    Unclaimed refund · Sacramento,

    Reported by Pacific Gas & Electric Company

    $207.79
    Start this claim

    State ID 958950465

  • Likely match

    Smith Burgess Donna

    Insurance proceeds · San Bernardino, CA

    Reported by Magellan Health Services Inc

    $205.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 17622370

  • Likely match

    Skjong Donna

    Cash held by the State · Pleasanton, CA

    Reported by Office Depot Inc

    $179.54
    Start this claim

    State ID 17884926

  • Likely match

    Schwarzbach Donna

    Unpaid wages · Ben Lomond, CA

    Reported by Pacific Gas & Electric Company

    $179.40
    Start this claim

    State ID 1065187214

  • Likely match

    Soto Donna

    Unclaimed refund · Morgan Hill, CA

    Reported by Cingular Restitution Plan Claims Admin

    $165.88
    Start this claim

    State ID 957521626

  • Likely match

    Sowards Donna

    Insurance proceeds · Moreno Valley, CA

    Reported by Fremont Compensation Insurancecompany

    $153.73
    Start this claim

    State ID 14439215

  • Likely match

    Sue's Flowers Donna

    Cash held by the State · Santa Clara, CA

    Reported by State Of Michigan

    $150.01
    Start this claim

    State ID 18350355

  • Likely match

    Stoneham Donna

    Cash held by the State · Richmond, CA

    Reported by First American Home Warranty

    $150.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1026969151

  • Likely match

    Sanchez Donna

    Stocks or securities · Fairfield, CA

    Reported by Robinhood Securities Llc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $146.75 Ford Motor Company
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071775908

  • Likely match

    Starkey Donna

    Cash held by the State · San Francisco, CA

    Reported by Kaiser Foundation Health Plan

    $139.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 989459410

  • Likely match

    Seaton Donna

    Unclaimed refund · Oakland, CA

    Reported by Pacific Bell Telephone Company

    $138.15
    Start this claim

    State ID 16772290

  • Likely match

    Sidhu Donna

    Cash held by the State · Concord, CA

    Reported by Unitedhealthcare Insurance Co

    $138.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 991747550

  • Likely match

    Sanchez Donna

    Uncashed check · Calimesa, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Unauthorized Account Qsf

    $127.82
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057913456

  • Likely match

    Staples Donna

    Uncashed check

    Reported by Comerica Bank

    $125.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 997553279

  • Likely match

    Shultz Donna

    Credit balance · Freemont, CA

    Reported by Nueces Electric Coop Inc

    $120.99
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071220741

  • Likely match

    Sanford Donna

    Cash held by the State · P O, CA

    Reported by Progressive Northwestern Insur

    $117.22
    Start this claim

    State ID 10998857

  • Likely match

    Stumpf Donna

    Unclaimed refund · El Granada, CA

    Reported by Pacific Bell Telephone Company

    $113.06
    Start this claim

    State ID 16772294

  • Likely match

    Stafford Donna

    Uncashed check · Huntington Bea, CA

    Reported by Haier Us Appliance Solutions Inc

    $109.20
    Start this claim

    State ID 1004949487

  • Likely match

    Sieff Donna

    Unclaimed refund · Felton, CA

    Reported by Pacific Gas & Electric Company

    $106.16
    Start this claim

    State ID 971684114

  • Likely match

    Strapason Donna

    Stocks or securities · Paso Robles, CA

    Reported by Robinhood Securities Llc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $105.48 Invesco Exchange Traded F
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071759207

  • Likely match

    Sevilla Donna

    Cash held by the State · Valencia, CA

    Reported by Cedars-sinai Medical Center

    $105.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061492512

  • Likely match

    Sawicki Donna

    Uncashed check · Santa Rosa, CA

    Reported by Sbb &t Ral Funding Corporation

    $102.61
    Start this claim

    State ID 966154999

  • Likely match

    Sanchez Donna

    Cash held by the State · Fairfield, CA

    Reported by Robinhood Securities Llc

    $100.52
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071699484

  • Likely match

    Sharer Donna

    Uncashed check · Bakersfield, CA

    Reported by Auto Club Enterprises

    $100.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1059372688

  • Likely match

    S Chicken Dinah

    Cash held by the State · Pasadena, CA

    Reported by Uber Technologies Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $16,237.80
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072575467

  • Likely match

    S Lin Dan

    Uncashed check · Walnut, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Bank, N.a. (apecs 1)

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $5,306.21
    Start this claim

    State ID 1057559840

  • Likely match

    S Denny

    Cash held by the State · Bakersfield, CA

    Reported by Uber Technologies Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $4,955.08
    Start this claim

    State ID 1072575443

  • Likely match

    S Home Diana

    Unpaid dividends · Torrance, CA

    Reported by State Compensation Insurance Fund

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,637.60
    Start this claim

    State ID 1061749376

  • Likely match

    S Lin Dan

    Savings account · Walnut, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Bank, N.a. (apecs 1)

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,492.71
    Start this claim

    State ID 1060295511

  • Likely match

    S Day Spa Dawn

    Cash held by the State · Dana Point, CA

    Reported by Paypal

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,319.92
    Start this claim

    State ID 1046461459

  • Likely match

    S Kawachi Don

    Escrow balance · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Fifth Third Bancorp

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,424.78
    Start this claim

    State ID 1044798132

  • Likely match

    S Cufaude Deana

    Escrow balance · Orland, CA

    Reported by Timios Title, A California Corporation

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,604.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1085836289

  • Likely match

    S Auto Dean

    Insurance proceeds · San Mateo, CA

    Reported by State Farm Mutual Automobile Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 2 other people

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,522.79
    Start this claim

    State ID 15197906

  • Likely match

    S Motel Deano

    Unclaimed refund · Culver City, CA

    Reported by Executive Finance Inc

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,188.73
    Start this claim

    State ID 1010889567

  • Likely match

    S Sand Dunn

    Uncashed check · Visalia, CA

    Reported by Southern California Edison Company

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,100.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1028702016

  • Likely match

    S Hotel Apartments Dinah

    Savings account · Palo Alto, CA

    Reported by Bank Of America - California Na (318)

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,090.70
    Start this claim

    State ID 989599800

  • Likely match

    S Johnson Danny

    Unclaimed refund · Santa Ynez, CA

    Reported by Jpmorgan Chase Bank N.a. (500009)

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,088.89
    Start this claim

    State ID 1068988271

  • Likely match

    S Dean

    Cash held by the State

    Reported by Ba Insurance Agency

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,006.30
    Start this claim

    State ID 9426197

  • Likely match

    S Dill Donn

    Stocks or securities · San Juan Capo, CA

    Reported by Charles Schwab & Co Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $978.86 Smith & Wesson Brands Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071361593

  • Likely match

    S Glaser Dina

    Uncashed check · Lincoln, CA

    Reported by Servicemac Usa

    $968.05
    Start this claim

    State ID 1066290448

  • Likely match

    S Roofing Don

    Unclaimed refund · Yuba City, CA

    Reported by Accredited Surety And Casualty

    $960.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 968081604

  • Likely match

    S S Dunn

    Stocks or securities · Pismo Beach, CA

    Reported by Pacific Telesis Group C O Boston Equiserve

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $931.87 Pacific Telesis Group
    Start this claim

    State ID 4484172

  • Worth checking

    Xiao P Duan

    Uncashed check · San Jose, CA

    Reported by World Savings Bank Fsb

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,560.89
    Start this claim

    State ID 15745819

  • Worth checking

    Xiao Quin Duan

    Savings account · Alhambra, CA

    Reported by Cathay Bank

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,256.94
    Start this claim

    State ID 12504543

  • Worth checking

    Ci Dunn

    Pension or retirement funds · Van Nuys, CA

    Reported by U.s. Bank - Pars

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,095.31
    Start this claim

    State ID 975651574

  • Worth checking

    Xiu J Dan

    Uncashed check · Canoga Park, CA

    Reported by Bank Of America N A

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,090.32
    Start this claim

    State ID 15856147

  • Worth checking

    Shirley C Dion

    Savings account · Mission Viejo, CA

    Reported by U. S. Bank, N. A.

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $145,342.08
    Start this claim

    State ID 1036299475

  • Worth checking

    Simmons Diane

    Escrow balance · Pacifica, CA

    Reported by Codillis & Stawiarksi Pc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $89,669.70
    Start this claim

    State ID 1071218764

  • Worth checking

    Silvia E Dunn

    Cash held by the State · Santa Cruz, CA

    Reported by U. S. Bank, N. A.

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $34,751.13
    Start this claim

    State ID 1030613484

  • Worth checking

    Savings And Loan Downey

    Cash held by the State · Cudahy, CA

    Reported by Transamerica Life Insurance Company

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $29,500.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1018024054

  • Worth checking

    Sue Downey

    Cash held by the State · Sausalito, CA

    Reported by American General Life Insurance Company

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $21,263.85
    Start this claim

    State ID 1017961017

  • Worth checking

    Sandra F Dionne

    Retirement account · San Jose, CA

    Reported by National Financial Services Llc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $17,045.22 Fidelity Select Technology
    Start this claim

    State ID 1014618247

  • Worth checking

    Sylvia Dunn

    Cash held by the State · Cupertino, CA

    Reported by Lendingclub Corporation

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $16,101.62
    Start this claim

    State ID 999259727

  • Worth checking

    Savings Downey

    Cash held by the State

    Reported by Mercury Casualty Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $15,834.78
    Start this claim

    State ID 997800999

  • Worth checking

    Silvia E Dunn

    Cash held by the State · Santa Cruz, CA

    Reported by U. S. Bank, N. A.

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $14,594.76
    Start this claim

    State ID 1030613485

  • Worth checking

    Sarah Dann

    Stocks or securities · Hook Rg279ue, CA

    Reported by Charles Schwab & Co Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $14,409.08 Visa Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1039292010

  • Worth checking

    Scotty K Dean

    Uncashed check · Glendale, AZ

    Reported by Wells Fargo Bank Na (apecs 111)

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $12,586.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 1027094926

  • Worth checking

    Sharon J Dunn

    Uncashed check · San Diego, CA

    Reported by Union Bank N.a.

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $12,114.41
    Start this claim

    State ID 978162385

  • Worth checking

    Sandra F Dionne

    Retirement account · San Jose, CA

    Reported by National Financial Services Llc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $11,347.70
    Start this claim

    State ID 1014618011

  • Worth checking

    Savings Loan Downey

    Savings account · Irvine, CA

    Reported by Pb Bank Inc The

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $11,318.57
    Start this claim

    State ID 982182376

  • Worth checking

    Stanley Dunn

    Credit balance · San Diego, CA

    Reported by Citibank (south Dakota) Na

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $10,809.02
    Start this claim

    State ID 956851069

Showing the 100 most valuable of 299. That is a common name — add a first name or a city to narrow it, and try any former spelling.

Tell us if this name comes up again

Banks and insurers hand accounts to the State Controller roughly twice a year, and the file grows every time. We will keep checking this name against each new file and write to you if it appears.

Only about this name, and you can stop it from any email. We do not sell or share the address.

How You Are Protected

Our fee is capped at ten per cent of what is recovered by Code of Civil Procedure §1582, and nothing is owed until the State Controller has paid you. If we recover nothing, you owe nothing.

There is no deadline. The State holds unclaimed property indefinitely, so nothing here is urgent.

A Second State File

4 probate estates carry that name

Separately from unclaimed accounts, the State Controller publishes the estates of deceased people that reached it through county probate. This file names the decedent and the heirs on record, which the main file does not.

1 is still open, holding $5,028.

  • Dean Shizuno

    Probate estate · Tulare County · 2025

    Matched on Dean Shizuno (decedent)

    $5,028.24
    Ask about this estate

    State ID 1040416792
    Case N/A

3 more under that name that can no longer be claimed

When an estate goes unclaimed long enough, the State takes permanent title to it and no claim will be paid afterwards. These are shown because knowing what happened to a relative’s estate is worth something even when the money is gone. Nobody can recover these — if a firm offers to, that alone tells you what they are.

  • Dowling Susie Haun

    Probate estate · 2013

    Matched on Dean Susan Virginia (heir)

    Permanently escheated — the State now owns this and it cannot be claimed.

    $875.79 closed

    State ID 970970146
    Case props 0800346

  • Burke Lawrence M

    Probate estate · Los Angeles County · 2005

    Matched on Dann Shannon (heir)

    Permanently escheated — the State now owns this and it cannot be claimed.

    $175.95 closed

    State ID 956828512
    Case BP010827

  • Dawn Stellagene Julis

    Probate estate · Fresno County · 1984

    Matched on Dawn Stellagene Julis (decedent)

    Permanently escheated — the State now owns this and it cannot be claimed.

    $0.00 closed

    State ID 956819382
    Case 267784-7

Fees on probated estates are not capped by the ten per cent rule that governs ordinary unclaimed property. How estate claims work, including what we would charge and why the difference exists.

Commissioned California Notary Public $15,000 surety bond Fee capped at 10% by state law Nothing owed until you are paid
10%
Maximum fee, by statute
Code of Civil Procedure §1582 caps any recovery fee at ten percent of the property returned.
$1,000
Notarization threshold
Cash claims at or above this must be notarized. So must all securities and safe deposit boxes.
7 days
Data refresh cycle
The State Controller republishes the full record set every Thursday, and we rebuild our copy from it.
None
Deadline to claim
California places no time limit. The State holds unclaimed property indefinitely.

How This Search Differs from the Official One

The State Controller’s own search matches what you type, and nothing else. Ours also finds maiden names, married names, initials, common misspellings, hyphen variants, and business names with and without their suffixes — because the record was created by whoever held the account, not by you.

Every result comes from the Controller’s own published file, which we rebuild weekly. Each one carries the State’s own property ID, so the record you are looking at is traceable to the source rather than to us.

What We Search Under

  • Your name as typed, plus initials and middle-name variants
  • Maiden and former married names, if you tell us them
  • Common misspellings and transposed letters
  • Former addresses in California
  • Business names with and without Inc., LLC, Co. and DBAs

How You Are Protected

Our fee is capped at ten per cent of what is recovered by Code of Civil Procedure §1582, and nothing is owed until the State Controller has paid you. If we recover nothing, you owe nothing.

California Unclaimed Property Services is a private asset recovery firm. We are not the California State Controller’s Office.

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Give us a name and we will check the State Controller’s records under every reasonable variant of it. Asking costs nothing and commits you to nothing.