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Enter a name exactly as it may have appeared on an old account. We search the State Controller’s published records under every reasonable variant of it, not just the spelling you typed.

150 records carry that name

The 100 shown below are worth $161,703 between them. A match is not proof — the State holds many people with the same name, and establishing which record is yours is the real work of a claim.

The State holds 4,000 records under the surname Lane, worth $3,933,761. See every city and first name they are recorded under

  • Strong match

    Thomas K Lane

    Stocks or securities · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Clearing Services Llc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $8,962.25 Lumentum Holdings Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1008410635

  • Strong match

    Thomas K Lane

    Stocks or securities · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Clearing Services Llc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $8,008.89 Viavi Solutions Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1008410636

  • Strong match

    Thomas W Lane

    Cash held by the State · San Diego, CA

    Reported by American General Life Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,662.92
    Start this claim

    State ID 1017960729

  • Strong match

    Thomas G Lane

    Pension or retirement funds · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by State Of California Savings Plus

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,395.47
    Start this claim

    State ID 16579044

  • Strong match

    Thomas R Lane

    Cash held by the State · Hayfork, CA

    Reported by Government Personnel Mutual Life Ins Co

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,117.29
    Start this claim

    State ID 354341

  • Strong match

    Thomas F Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Ventura, CA

    Reported by California Capital Ins Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $922.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 977461897

  • Strong match

    Thomas M Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Berkeley, CA

    Reported by Chicago Title Co Of Alameda County

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $520.98
    Start this claim

    State ID 11484643

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Uncashed check · Glendora, CA

    Reported by Kindred Healthcare Llc Ap

    $502.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1024300924

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Uncashed check · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Radius Recycling Inc.

    $235.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 985238078

  • Strong match

    Thomas R Lane

    Credit balance · Bella Vista, CA

    Reported by Citibank N A

    $193.68
    Start this claim

    State ID 994955811

  • Strong match

    Thomas E Lane

    Cash held by the State · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Bank Of America - Passbook Accounts

    $192.97
    Start this claim

    State ID 102012

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Cash held by the State

    Reported by Westaff Inc Common

    $185.62
    Start this claim

    State ID 4512319

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Glendora, CA

    Reported by Interinsurance Exchange Of The Automobile Club

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $171.49
    Start this claim

    State ID 1011468547

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Cash held by the State · Del Mar, CA

    Reported by Us Bank Na

    $154.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1001847918

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Unclaimed refund · San Juan Capist, CA

    Reported by Automobile Club Of Southern California

    $150.37
    Start this claim

    State ID 12892315

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Cash held by the State · Sacramento, CA

    Reported by Community Engaged Payee Support

    $143.44
    Start this claim

    State ID 1021868773

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Cash held by the State · Folsom, CA

    Reported by Travel Plus Leisure Co.

    $139.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 964441123

  • Strong match

    Thomas D Lane

    Unpaid dividends · San Francisco, CA

    Reported by Alcatel Lucent

    $136.81
    Start this claim

    State ID 14274053

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Cash held by the State · Carlsbad, CA

    Reported by Pacific Bell Telephone Company

    $131.53
    Start this claim

    State ID 18415161

  • Strong match

    Thomas Lane

    Insurance proceeds · Redondo Beach, CA

    Reported by Bristol West Ins Ser Of Ca Inc

    $116.30
    Start this claim

    State ID 16727387

  • Strong match

    Thomas B Lane

    Cash held by the State

    Reported by First Interstate Mortgage Co

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $112.01
    Start this claim

    State ID 5222601

  • Strong match

    Thomas D Lane

    Unpaid dividends · San Diego,

    Reported by U.s. Bank Trust National Assoc. (ca)

    $105.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 4305213

  • Likely match

    T L Lane

    Stocks or securities · Oceanside, CA

    Reported by Boeing Company The

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,242.35 Boeing Company
    Start this claim

    State ID 1018700388

  • Likely match

    T L Lane

    Insurance proceeds · Santa Rosa, CA

    Reported by Delta Dental Of California

    $440.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 13395356

  • Likely match

    Thomas Wagner Lon

    Mineral or royalty payments · Moreno Valley, CA

    Reported by Crescent Energy Finance Llc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $4,275.43
    Start this claim

    State ID 1059160343

  • Likely match

    Thomas Ming Ting Lin

    Savings account · Garden Grove, CA

    Reported by Bank Of America Nt&sa Branch:0970-lampson-valley View Br

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,073.19
    Start this claim

    State ID 1572734

  • Likely match

    Thomas Linn

    Unclaimed refund · Canyon Country, CA

    Reported by Amco Insurance Co

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,010.32
    Start this claim

    State ID 992335471

  • Likely match

    Thomas Lin

    Savings account · San Diego, CA

    Reported by Jpmorgan Chase Bank N.a.

    $955.87
    Start this claim

    State ID 986929337

  • Likely match

    Thomas W Linn

    Escrow balance · Lodi, CA

    Reported by Ocwen Financial Corp

    $944.82
    Start this claim

    State ID 1021595109

  • Likely match

    Thomas Yun Lin

    Savings account · Berkeley, CA

    Reported by East West Bank

    $942.71
    Start this claim

    State ID 975460673

  • Worth checking

    Teri Lyn Lane

    Cash held by the State · Milpitas, CA

    Reported by Brighthouse Life Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $48,294.09
    Start this claim

    State ID 1025025115

  • Worth checking

    Terri Lane

    Uncashed check

    Reported by Wells Fargo Bank, Na (apecs 1009)

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $22,102.25
    Start this claim

    State ID 1006159558

  • Worth checking

    Tina Lane

    Cash held by the State · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Colonial Penn Life Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $6,987.68
    Start this claim

    State ID 1008328784

  • Worth checking

    Terry S Lane

    Savings account · Long Beach, CA

    Reported by Jpmorgan Chase Bank N.a. (1703)

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $3,728.30
    Start this claim

    State ID 1044688044

  • Worth checking

    T Thai Lan

    Savings account · Arcadia, CA

    Reported by First Citizens Bank & Trust Company

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,605.02
    Start this claim

    State ID 1073663617

  • Worth checking

    Terry S Lane

    Escrow balance · San Pedro, CA

    Reported by Wells Fargo Home Mortgage

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $2,318.92
    Start this claim

    State ID 976655935

  • Worth checking

    Timothy C Lane

    Escrow balance · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Dovenmuehle Mortgage Inc.

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,848.25
    Start this claim

    State ID 1012744199

  • Worth checking

    Trinity R Lane

    Unpaid dividends · North Hollywood, CA

    Reported by Walmart Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,830.68 Walmart Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 1047409507

  • Worth checking

    Trish Lane

    Cash held by the State · Santa Barbara, CA

    Reported by Paypal Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,816.09
    Start this claim

    State ID 972489385

  • Worth checking

    Trustee Nancy Lee Lane

    Cash held by the State · Huntington Beach, CA

    Reported by Moyer Stonehedge No 3

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,795.92
    Start this claim

    State ID 1024343616

  • Worth checking

    T Ha Loan

    Unclaimed refund · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Anthem Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,693.65
    Start this claim

    State ID 1011637328

  • Worth checking

    Tammy L Lane

    Cash held by the State · Coto De Caza, CA

    Reported by Treasurer Of Virginia

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,368.09
    Start this claim

    State ID 1029408778

  • Worth checking

    Trevor K Lane

    Cash held by the State · Coto De Caza, CA

    Reported by Treasurer Of Virginia

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,368.09
    Start this claim

    State ID 1029408778

  • Worth checking

    T Mai Loan

    Credit balance · Milpitas, CA

    Reported by Cit Group Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,294.51
    Start this claim

    State ID 17529377

  • Worth checking

    Timothy S Lane

    Savings account · Pacifica, CA

    Reported by Citizens Equity First Credit Union (cefcu)

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,247.06
    Start this claim

    State ID 981072885

  • Worth checking

    Tony Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Garden Grove, CA

    Reported by Yahoo Holdings, Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $1,172.40
    Start this claim

    State ID 981520949

  • Worth checking

    T Bui Lien

    Unclaimed refund · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Triad Financial Services Inc

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $967.03
    Start this claim

    State ID 1063002126

  • Worth checking

    Toni Lane

    Cash held by the State

    Reported by Novell Inc

    $829.51
    Start this claim

    State ID 15721666

  • Worth checking

    Theodore Lane

    Trust funds

    Reported by Serrano South Convalescent Hospital

    $818.76
    Start this claim

    State ID 14539824

  • Worth checking

    Tony Lane

    Stocks or securities · Desert Hot Springs, CA

    Reported by Exxon Mobil Corp

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $700.75 Exxon Mobil Corp
    Start this claim

    State ID 960203766

  • Worth checking

    Lane

    Cash held by the State · Newport Beach, CA

    Reported by Inspira Financial Health Inc (fka Payflex Systems

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    $675.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1036978687

  • Worth checking

    Terry L Lane

    Stocks or securities · San Diego, CA

    Reported by John Hancock Financial Services Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $633.42
    Start this claim

    State ID 15694846

  • Worth checking

    Timothy Lane

    Cash held by the State · Foresthill, CA

    Reported by Pathward

    $600.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1040909563

  • Worth checking

    Treavor Lane

    Stocks or securities · Santee, CA

    Reported by Deere & Company

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $575.20 Deere & Company
    Start this claim

    State ID 1045853380

  • Worth checking

    Lane

    Insurance proceeds · Sn Bernrdno, CA

    Reported by Fire Insurance Exchange

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    $551.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 18916190

  • Worth checking

    Terry Lane

    Credit balance · Stockton, CA

    Reported by Scottrade Inc

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $543.14
    Start this claim

    State ID 989067759

  • Worth checking

    Thella M Lane

    Stocks or securities · Long Beach, CA

    Reported by Metlife Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $531.61 Metlife Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 983764610

  • Worth checking

    Terri Lane

    Cash held by the State · Westlake Village, CA

    Reported by Wm Corporate Services Inc

    $527.58
    Start this claim

    State ID 1042100459

  • Worth checking

    Tory Lane

    Uncashed check · Unknown,

    Reported by Bank Of America - California

    $525.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 964786708

  • Worth checking

    Terry Lane

    Cash held by the State · Laguna Niguel, CA

    Reported by Union Security Insurance Company

    $518.63
    Start this claim

    State ID 959093891

  • Worth checking

    Timothy J Lane

    Uncashed check · Pcairic Palsisd, CA

    Reported by Landamerica Financial Group Inc

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $501.48
    Start this claim

    State ID 14536309

  • Worth checking

    Tina M Lane

    Uncashed check · Fresno, CA

    Reported by Stewart Title Of Calif., Inc. State Division

    Held jointly with 2 other people

    $500.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 18207987

  • Worth checking

    Tammy Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Coto De Caza, CA

    Reported by Interinsurance Exchange Of The Automobile Club

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $491.64
    Start this claim

    State ID 1047652014

  • Worth checking

    Trevor Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Coto De Caza, CA

    Reported by Interinsurance Exchange Of The Automobile Club

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $491.64
    Start this claim

    State ID 1047652014

  • Worth checking

    Tayler Lane

    Uncashed check · San Leandro, CA

    Reported by Fifth Third Bancorp

    $478.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 1044807543

  • Worth checking

    Theodore R Lane

    Stocks or securities · San Rafael, CA

    Reported by Metlife Inc

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $423.30 Metlife Inc
    Start this claim

    State ID 15492009

  • Worth checking

    Terry S Lane

    Unclaimed refund · San Pedro, CA

    Reported by Fire Insurance Exchange

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $422.78
    Start this claim

    State ID 964070465

  • Worth checking

    Lane

    Unpaid wages

    Reported by St Joseph's Medical Center Of Stockton

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    $416.27
    Start this claim

    State ID 954578742

  • Worth checking

    Lane

    Unclaimed refund

    Reported by Fire Insurance Exchange

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    $405.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 969681310

  • Worth checking

    Taylor Lane

    Unpaid dividends · Sonoma, CA

    Reported by Comcast Corp

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $394.23 Comcast Corp New
    Start this claim

    State ID 993841642

  • Worth checking

    Taylor Lane

    Stocks or securities · Sonoma, CA

    Reported by Comcast Corp

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $394.23 Comcast Corp New
    Start this claim

    State ID 993841641

  • Worth checking

    Teresa A Lane

    Cash held by the State · Pasadena, CA

    Reported by Avco Corporation

    $390.77
    Start this claim

    State ID 12969620

  • Worth checking

    Tiffany Lane

    Uncashed check · Concord, CA

    Reported by Travis Credit Union

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $386.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 1043013407

  • Worth checking

    Teresa Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Pleasanton, CA

    Reported by Hsbc Finance Corporation

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $378.27
    Start this claim

    State ID 17723000

  • Worth checking

    Lane

    Uncashed check

    Reported by Bank Of America - California

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    $374.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 956321950

  • Worth checking

    Timothy R Lane

    Uncashed check · Santa Ana, CA

    Reported by Washington Mutual Bank (68-0172274)

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $365.30
    Start this claim

    State ID 16517662

  • Worth checking

    Tyrell R Lane

    Unpaid wages · San Leandro, CA

    Reported by In-n-out Burgers

    $361.01
    Start this claim

    State ID 1021915787

  • Worth checking

    Todd Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Bakersfield, CA

    Reported by American Bankers Insurance Company

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $358.11
    Start this claim

    State ID 12642275

  • Worth checking

    Tamika Lane

    Uncashed check · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Pathward, National Association

    $354.36
    Start this claim

    State ID 1033100246

  • Worth checking

    T E Laney

    Unclaimed refund · Victorville, CA

    Reported by Bank Of America - North Carolina

    $339.96
    Start this claim

    State ID 994712880

  • Worth checking

    Timothy Lane

    Savings account · Sacramento, CA

    Reported by Golden 1 Credit Union

    $334.29
    Start this claim

    State ID 995215609

  • Worth checking

    Tara Lane

    Unpaid wages · Twenty Nine Palms, CA

    Reported by Aegis Senior Communities Llc

    $333.43
    Start this claim

    State ID 988751903

  • Worth checking

    Tiffany M Lane

    Cash held by the State · Benecia, CA

    Reported by Progressive Casualty Insurance Co

    $331.82
    Start this claim

    State ID 10967850

  • Worth checking

    Tracy T Lane

    Unclaimed refund · Burlingame, CA

    Reported by Sutter Bay Hospitals

    $328.18
    Start this claim

    State ID 1023195231

  • Worth checking

    Tammy S Lane

    Cash held by the State · Rancho Cordova, CA

    Reported by Gutierrez V Wells Fargo Bank Na Qualified Settlement

    $313.90
    Start this claim

    State ID 1012177189

  • Worth checking

    Thaddeus Lane

    Unpaid wages · Anaheim, CA

    Reported by Aramark Corporation

    $304.64
    Start this claim

    State ID 954181354

  • Worth checking

    Taylor H Lane

    Stocks or securities · San Jose, CA

    Reported by Fnb-bankcard

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $300.09
    Start this claim

    State ID 1001758063

  • Worth checking

    Lane

    Credit balance · Camarillo, CA

    Reported by Surgical Care Affiliates Llc

    Someone has already filed a claim on this property. It may be you, or it may not.

    $300.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 979377196

  • Worth checking

    Tosherra Lane

    Unpaid wages · Fairfield, CA

    Reported by Paychex Inc.

    $297.04
    Start this claim

    State ID 1035367278

  • Worth checking

    Terry Mrs Lane

    Unclaimed refund · San Pedro, CA

    Reported by Liberty Mutual Insurance Co.

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    $296.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 964822200

  • Worth checking

    Tanner Lane

    Unpaid wages · Simi Valley, CA

    Reported by Nbcuniversal Media Llc

    $294.87
    Start this claim

    State ID 1029287611

  • Worth checking

    Tchad L Lane

    Unpaid wages · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Fedex Ground Package System Inc

    $290.57
    Start this claim

    State ID 1013592182

  • Worth checking

    Tchad L Lane

    Unpaid wages · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Fedex Ground Package System Inc

    $288.60
    Start this claim

    State ID 1013592180

  • Worth checking

    Tucker W Lane

    Stocks or securities · Manhattan Beach, CA

    Reported by Disneyland Accounts Payable

    Held jointly with 1 other person

    A claim on this will have to be notarized.

    $287.06 Disney Walt Company
    Start this claim

    State ID 11919878

  • Worth checking

    Lane

    Cash held by the State · Yuba City, CA

    Reported by Uncashed Warrants

    $270.62
    Start this claim

    State ID 989096921

  • Worth checking

    Tchad L Lane

    Unpaid wages · Los Angeles, CA

    Reported by Fedex Ground Package System Inc

    $266.39
    Start this claim

    State ID 1013592181

  • Worth checking

    Timothy C Lane

    Unpaid wages · Reseda, CA

    Reported by Aeg Processing Center No 58

    $263.65
    Start this claim

    State ID 1007978173

  • Worth checking

    Trudy A Lane

    Unpaid wages · Redding, CA

    Reported by Wal-mart Stores Inc

    $261.59
    Start this claim

    State ID 19038446

  • Worth checking

    Tammi Lane

    Cash held by the State · Orange, CA

    Reported by Paypal Inc

    $250.50
    Start this claim

    State ID 1009136727

  • Worth checking

    Trisha Lane

    Insurance proceeds · Chatsworth, CA

    Reported by Life Insurance Co North America

    $250.00
    Start this claim

    State ID 14618518

Showing the 100 most valuable of 160. That is a common name — add a first name or a city to narrow it, and try any former spelling.

Tell us if this name comes up again

Banks and insurers hand accounts to the State Controller roughly twice a year, and the file grows every time. We will keep checking this name against each new file and write to you if it appears.

Only about this name, and you can stop it from any email. We do not sell or share the address.

How You Are Protected

Our fee is capped at ten per cent of what is recovered by Code of Civil Procedure §1582, and nothing is owed until the State Controller has paid you. If we recover nothing, you owe nothing.

There is no deadline. The State holds unclaimed property indefinitely, so nothing here is urgent.

A Second State File

3 probate estates carry that name

Separately from unclaimed accounts, the State Controller publishes the estates of deceased people that reached it through county probate. This file names the decedent and the heirs on record, which the main file does not.

1 is still open, holding $944.

  • Laine Thomas

    Probate estate · San Diego County · 2023

    Matched on Laine Thomas (decedent)

    $944.11
    Ask about this estate

    State ID 1025190556
    Case 20220073

2 more under that name that can no longer be claimed

When an estate goes unclaimed long enough, the State takes permanent title to it and no claim will be paid afterwards. These are shown because knowing what happened to a relative’s estate is worth something even when the money is gone. Nobody can recover these — if a firm offers to, that alone tells you what they are.

  • Lane Thomas C

    Probate estate · Merced County · 2012

    Matched on Lane Thomas C (decedent)

    Permanently escheated — the State now owns this and it cannot be claimed.

    $3,420.11 closed

    State ID 969014939
    Case 567

  • Lane Thomass

    Probate estate · Los Angeles County · 1981

    Matched on Lane Thomass (decedent)

    Permanently escheated — the State now owns this and it cannot be claimed.

    $0.00 closed

    State ID 956831020
    Case 634 219

Fees on probated estates are not capped by the ten per cent rule that governs ordinary unclaimed property. How estate claims work, including what we would charge and why the difference exists.

Commissioned California Notary Public $15,000 surety bond Fee capped at 10% by state law Nothing owed until you are paid
10%
Maximum fee, by statute
Code of Civil Procedure §1582 caps any recovery fee at ten percent of the property returned.
$1,000
Notarization threshold
Cash claims at or above this must be notarized. So must all securities and safe deposit boxes.
7 days
Data refresh cycle
The State Controller republishes the full record set every Thursday, and we rebuild our copy from it.
None
Deadline to claim
California places no time limit. The State holds unclaimed property indefinitely.

How This Search Differs from the Official One

The State Controller’s own search matches what you type, and nothing else. Ours also finds maiden names, married names, initials, common misspellings, hyphen variants, and business names with and without their suffixes — because the record was created by whoever held the account, not by you.

Every result comes from the Controller’s own published file, which we rebuild weekly. Each one carries the State’s own property ID, so the record you are looking at is traceable to the source rather than to us.

What We Search Under

  • Your name as typed, plus initials and middle-name variants
  • Maiden and former married names, if you tell us them
  • Common misspellings and transposed letters
  • Former addresses in California
  • Business names with and without Inc., LLC, Co. and DBAs

How You Are Protected

Our fee is capped at ten per cent of what is recovered by Code of Civil Procedure §1582, and nothing is owed until the State Controller has paid you. If we recover nothing, you owe nothing.

California Unclaimed Property Services is a private asset recovery firm. We are not the California State Controller’s Office.

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Give us a name and we will check the State Controller’s records under every reasonable variant of it. Asking costs nothing and commits you to nothing.